{"id":5499,"date":"2011-05-18T14:27:00","date_gmt":"2011-05-18T14:27:00","guid":{"rendered":"\/Community\/blogs\/fdominicus\/archive\/2011\/05\/18\/the-madnesss-of-gdp-related-debts.aspx"},"modified":"2017-12-07T07:38:59","modified_gmt":"2017-12-07T06:38:59","slug":"madnesss-gdp-related-debts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.q-software-solutions.de\/blog\/2011\/05\/madnesss-gdp-related-debts\/","title":{"rendered":"The madnesss of GDP related debts."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\nI&#8217;m suprised that a debts rate of is calculated with the GDP.\n<\/p>\n<p> I know &#8222;every&#8220; does it. But if are at the edge of a canyon, and everyone is marching on, makes this march not less stupid\n<\/p>\n<p>\nLet&#8217;s translate it into our &#8222;world&#8220; (the non government world) So I&#8217;M living in Heidelsheim around 5000 inhabitants. Now what the produce can be seen as &#8222;my&#8220; GDP.<br \/>\nSo let&#8217;s assume I have 100 000 EUR debts. But all i all the 5000 people would produce an GDP of 1 000 000. So my debt\/GDP ratio is just 10%. According to this I guess my finances would be sound.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nBut know we get back into  reality. I do not have access on the money of my neighbours. I&#8217;ve my income. So let&#8217;s calculate with an income of 25000. So I&#8217;d need at least 4 years to pay back all my debts. Would you think my financial situation is sound? Well you would ask what else does he have to &#8222;secure&#8220; the liability. So let&#8217;s be generous and give me 200 000 EUR . So in reality I&#8217;d just have 100 000 EUR (assuming I could make my property to money at an immediate notice)<br \/>\nStill the question are my finances sound?  We still don&#8217;t know.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nNow let&#8217;s switch back to the state analogy. As we know states do not have a balanced balance sheet. Each year they need extra credit. Now let&#8217;s assume I&#8217;m one of the better one&#8217;s and just need 10% extra debts on my income. That means each year I&#8217;d add another 2500 EUR debts. So let&#8217;s calculate with an interest of 5%. So my payments currently are around 5000 EUR. Next year I&#8217;ve to pay 1375 EUR interest. No let&#8217;s calculate if I do that for 50 years. I than have a debt of 600 000 EUR (if I could bear at lest all the interest) and my interest payment  would be around: 30000. Which is absolutly impossible. So now you can say, my situation is all but sound.<\/p>\n<p>\nBut now back  to the case of the government. Let us assume a GDP groswoth of the Heidelsheimer inhabitants of around  2.5%. So in 50 years we&#8217;d have a GDP (without inflation!!!!) of 3 437 109. EUR and my debt\/GDP ratio just would be:<br \/>\n0,174565311 that are 17,5%. Still for states this is sound?\n<\/p>\n<p>\nSo I do not think that Debt\/GDP is a wortwhile measure. We should just allow governments do calculate their debts with their income. Just imagine what 160% debt of the GDP means &#8230; So I can not see how e.g Greece  could &#8222;bear&#8220; that and in fact it&#8217;s getting more and more obvious&#8230; they can&#8217;t&#8230;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m suprised that a debts rate of is calculated with the GDP. I know &#8222;every&#8220; does it. But if are at the edge of a canyon, and everyone is marching on, makes this march not less stupid Let&#8217;s translate it into our &#8222;world&#8220; (the non government world) So I&#8217;M living in Heidelsheim around 5000 inhabitants. 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