Libraler/Libertärer und pro-kapitalistischer Blog, umbenannt als Homage an "This time is different". Schreiblage: Von locker über ernst, ironisch bis sarkastisch und manchmal nur noch makaber. Ab Dez 2017 auch 'The next money will be different' integriert
Man weiß nicht mehr wo man noch hinschauen kann. Gibt es irgendetwas gutes über politische Entscheidungen zu sagen. Gibt es irgendwo „mehr Freiheit“ oder muß man immer nur feststellen. „staatliche sanktionierte Diebstahl“…..
With an open end? Or are a fan of horror movies? Now I’ve found something for you:
http://wallstreetpit.com/13428-total-us-savings-rate-lowest-in-recorded-history
Do you feel the cold of death? Or do you fell hells heat? Well whatever it is pray that this chart changes soon.
Or if you are against government as I am pray that the State goes bankrupt. It will be on of the ugliest things you ever will imagine, But then „markt“ will be the only
thing left to survive. I just can tell you see the problems we Germans had. And we got a really good revival. But now we are following the US to our own bankrupt.
Yes savings are now starting and yes that is good, but still there is too much debt in the developed countries. What will happen if the money will be used for buying things?
You can see the assets are rising but are they raising because of good business? That’s the question.
I found two very different videos on youtube about it:
and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRV_b2AFnKw&feature=related
We must also keep in mind the Fed has pumped literally tons of money into the economy. They name it the quantitative easing. But the Fed has accepted securirties which do not deserve that name.
And the banks surely have not lend overly much of the money but the bought bonds and I bet assets. So a question not answered to met yet is. How much of the raising stock prices is due to money looking for profitable investment and how much is really driven by more profits from the corporations. AFAIKT is the unemployment rate still raising. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nsehkDwxBA&feature=related
A profitable recovery looks a bit different to me.
So I’m afraid the recovery still seems to be debt driven and not profit driven. So in my judgment peter Schiffer may lie but there still is no recovery but the money is driving up all the prices. So the higher stock markets are currently bubbled and not sustainable. I don’t know if this will change the next months. But because of all the hampering of free markets I’m not very optimistic. And I just can see the signs that inflation is a problem and this of course is due to the insane printing of money. But the FED never ever will admit that. It’s everything else but the loose money policy of the FED. It’s the greedy bankers, the speculators and everything else. And even if it’s worse now it would be even more worse without all the „actions“ That’s the fed way and you can not reject it. The unemployment may be even higher without all the interventions and so they are „good“. But is that really true?
I’m afraid it will get worse and worse, there comes the day the bonds will mature and then? There will come the day where the asset bubbles will bust…. I just can repeat myself, don’t trust government. If you do you’ll be among the first losers… Do not buy anything but values yet. Do not buy any bond of the US or you’ll be sorry. That’s my opinion, feel free to decide differently.
I know what I’m writing here is heresy. At least it is for the supposed to rule us well deledefs in Germany. Anyway here we go
Now can we rely on actual an currently working renewable energy? Well the depressing answer is „no“. We can’t . Neither wind nor sun is guaranteed to work every day, every hour. So we always will have strong up-and-downturns. There is not denying there are those gray days where neither one see the sun nor feel the slightest movement of air. And there will always be those day where the sun is burning and the wind storming.
Can we follow this variability. I’m afraid that won’t work either. So no we simply are not that variable with our needs.
So what can we do then? Can we store the electricity. Well to depressing low level yes we can. It might work e.g to keep my computer running with a large enough battery which may keep the currency even for a week or so. Can we do the same for let’s say melting steel? Well no, there is not way of storing away big masses of energy. Yes agreed you can warm water with it and you may use this water to make electricity again. But this really is a big loss and currently nothing on a large scale is available.
So the current unpleasant but nonetheless truth is. We have no reliable way storing away electricity. That’s a simple fact of life which nobody can change immedieatly, so currently if we’d have 100 GW renewable energy we need another 100 GW „traditional“ energy, be it gas, coal, oil, nuclear power. So this means we have a need for double the needed energy just in case one half is not available. That is uneconomic to the highest extend, so do we keep all the other conditions the same and let us assume one 1 KWH costs 20 ct. Then we need double the price for one KWH just being able to satisfy our current need for currency.
The other option just can’t be needing half the energy. But that does nor work for electricity. So with all mean the Greens are working against the objective reality, and how should that work? The simply answer is it hadn’t, doesn’t and never will (long term) So either we find a way storing electricity or we must limit other outputs from the industries which have to „be“ the reserves. In both cases we need at best double the prices of today. And you can bet hardly anyone will jump on the idea having double his expenses for the same output just because the Greens ignore reality
Ich schlage vor entweder Deutschland oder Griechenland verlässt die Währungsunion. Im Augenblick präferierte ich die Lösung wir gehen. Dann bringen wir mal unser Haus in Ordnung bevor wir unsere Hausordnung anderen „auf’s Auge drücken“. Griechenland braucht sich dann auch nicht mehr über uns beschweren, wir sind halt nicht mehr da.
Wie sähe meine „Hausbestellung aus“. a) Wir führen eine Goldmark ein b) Wir setzen Kirchhoffs Steuermodell um (idealerweise noch ergänzt um eine Möglichkeit festzulegen für was wir bereit sind Steuern zu bezahlen) c) Wir nehmen den Parteien Ihre herausragende Stellung und versuchen es mal mit „Demokratie“. d) Wir entlassen die meisten Bürokraten. Es gibt mehr als genug in Deutschland zu tun, da brauchen wir nicht noch künstliche Hindernisse um eben diese Sachen zu erledigen
Wenn wir dann zum Sanierungsfall werden sollten können wir uns ja immer noch mal wieder bei der EU einklinken. Denn offenbar ist es ja besser ein Sanierungsfall zu sein als selbständig und die Leistungen der EU sind reziprok zu den wirtschaftlichen „Erfolgen“ eines Landes.
Sollen wir wie erwartet einen Aufschwung ohne gleichen erleben wäre es an der Zeit uns eine Verfassung zu geben die es anderen Ländern erlaubt uns beizutreten. Wir haben dann eben mehrere EU Zonen und können mal sehen was besser funktioniert der Zentralismus und die Parteidiktatur der heutigen EU oder eine EU die auf „freiwillige“ Zusammenarbeit setzt und hier alle Hindernisse aus dem Weg schafft.
Ich hätte auch kein Problem damit sagen wir Deutschland in zwei teile aufzuspalten in dem einmal unsere derzeitigen Politiker „geparkt“ werden könnten und in dem anderen Teil setzen wir einfach mal a-d um. Jeder kann sich dann „sein“ Deutschland aussuchen was ihm eher zusagt.
Meines Erachtens eine ausnehmend faire Lösung, schadet zwar den Ambitionen der Delebets aber das find ich nun mal gut(tm)
was anderes kann man nicht schreiben. Endlich nimmt sich das Bundesverfassungsgesetz die versenkten Gelder für Griechenland an.
Leider heute mal wieder getrübt über ein m.E. Neiddebatte von Leuten die Ihr Geld immer vom Staat bekommen und daher offensichtlich dazu tendieren alles vom Staat kommende zu gutieren und Markt ist das Böse schlechthin. Rayson hat sich heute dazu ausgelassen
<p> The highest court in Germany will start „thinking“ about the lawsuits tomorrows. This were initiated a year ago before the first money was transferred. Just imagine you know a defrauder, he is caught and one year „nothing“ happens. That’s the situation of the „greece helpers“. It’s illegal, it’s against the no-bailout clause. and guess what nobody cares. </p>
<p> In fact Germany violates the treaties for the Eu convergence critera. Just hat anyone can remember. 1) not more than 60% debt of the GDP, b) not more than 3% new deficits a year. Nearly no-one fullfilles this things and what happens? Exactly nothing. Greece is beyond 150% new debt of the GDP and probably that’s the most after Japane which over 200% debt /GDP. </p>
<p> Just imagine you will among the richest men in Germany with 12 Billions. Probably among the top ten earner. And at the top of this earners Aldi stands. And they exist for now 50 years. So the worth of 50 years of work and service to the people gone today. For scammers. And still the same responsible for the scam are in charge in Greece. Everything they have done was lying and stealing but giving them more money is without alternative? </p>
Frage nicht, was der Staat für dich tun kann, sondern was du für den Staat tun kannst!“ (Zitat von John F. Kennedy)
Besser kann man es nicht auf den Punkt bringen. Wieviele Millionen Männer sind dafür als Soldaten ermordet, zerstückelt, zerhackt, zerrissen, verkrüppelt worden? Wieviele Millionen Frauen Kinder und alte Menschen sind verhungert, zerbombt, vergewaltigt, ermordet worden?
Kennedy wird als „strahlender“ Politiker dargestellt, dabei war das einzige Gute was er je beschloss sich in der Kubakrise nicht den Diktatoren aus der Sowjetunion und Kuba zu beugen.
Ansonsten kann man die negativen Auswüchse dies ja schon fast faschistischen Aufrufs. Was sonst als die Antwort „Führer wir folgen Dir“ gäbe eine „überzeugendere“ Antwort? Frag‘ nicht glaube Deinen Präsidenten oder was auch immer an der Spitze steht und lass dich schlachten.
Lass auch fahren all Deine Hoffnung auf faire Behandlung wenn der Staat es braucht oder vermeint zu brauchen solltest/mußt Du ihm alles opfern.
Wie kann jemand der sich wie auch immer Liberal nennt für den Fortbestand von Zentralbanken und Geldmonopolen sein? Irgendwie geht mit das nicht in den Kopf. Hat da irgendjemand Vorschläge?
Gegen Zentralbanken, waren unter anderem diverse Präsidenten der USA, von Mises, Hayek, Friedman und ich weiß nicht noch wieviele andere Liberale. Ich wüsste wirklich von keinem „bekannten“ liberalen, der Zentralbanken „gut“ fände.
I wrote about the debt race. And how the US and EU battle hard to win this break down.
Now with endless greedy greek Politicians according to „yet another not working fu…. plan“ (yanwfp). The EU throw out new well once good money which one can not tell really good any more.
But who cares that it’s illegal who cares that it’s against the own given laws. And still the inevitable will not be unstopped.
Now in the US one state will have to close:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43596944/ns/us_news/t/minn-government-shuts-down-budget-talks-fail/
As usual no party is guilty of it. And still they all have agreed upon piling up debts. So in fact none of them is guilty ALONE. They all are guilty. And still they do not have to go to jail. (because of harming everyone lvining in Minessota) no they still are in charge and I guess they will get paid as soon as they re-open their state.
I can not tell any more how fed up I’m of this criminals…. Why the hell have the US the largest prisons and still such thugs as „elits“?
An exemplary example:
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2011/06/17/gas-farm-labor-crisis-playing-out-as-planned/
Indeed you may say. The poor farm workers. The are exploited so bad farmer. Now the food gets wasted now if that happens all over the US what would you think will happen.
Exactly the prices for food will explode. So let’s assume there were 30 000 „illegal“ workers. This term alone is „indicative“ Who decides that. Ah yes the government. And still more and more illegals are still working. It seems the exploitation is not that harsh as one might expect.
Now where have this „illegals“ gone“. I bet not 10 % of them have gone back to whereever they had come. I bet the leaved Georgia and worked elswhere. The probability that they have to work for even less money than in Georgia are not neglectable. And so instead of 60000 less exploited illegals, they even get more exploited.
The things one sees vs the things one does not see….
Someone somehow always pays the bills…
Also Schäuble und die Banken verhandeln. Was ist passiert braucht der Staat mal wieder Geld oder müssen wir die Banken mal wieder „raushauen“. Nein Irrtum es geht um Griechenland. Nun denn was haben der Finanzminister und die Banken mit Griechenland zu schaffen. Der Schuldner ist doch Griechenland also warum verhandelt unser Finanzminister mit unseren Banken über noch nicht einmal unsere Schulden?
Nun denn Schäuble hat dafür eigentlich keine rechtliche Grundlage denn noch immer gilt -§125 AEUV. Also nicht mit „bail-out“. Die Banken sind Ihren Aktionären verpflichtet und diese haben nun mal ein legitimes Interesse das Gläubiger der Bank Ihre Schulden bezahlen. Also es ist völlig legitim wenn die Banken über die von Ihnen gehaltenen Anleihen verhandeln aber nur mit GRIECHENLAND.
Jetzt geht es um folgendes. Die Banken sollen faule Schulden der Griechen übernehmen, was eine Bank nicht machen würde wenn nicht ja jetzt kommt das grosse WENN es nicht irgendwelche Sicherheiten gibt. Nun welche Sicherheiten kann Schäuble Ihnen bieten. Wird der Bundesvermögen verpfänden? Wohl kaum es geht um Steuergelder und vieleicht auch um neue Geschäfte für die Banken wenn der Staat mal wieder Anleihen ausgibt.
Also hier kungeln 2 um Kosten die Sie auf Dritte abwälzen und das nennt man Willkür. Der Staat hat kein Verfügungsrecht über das Vermögen seiner Bürger und die Banken haben ebenfalls kein irgendwie geartetes Recht in unsere Taschen zu greifen wenn es nicht um ein Geschäft zwischen uns und der Bank geht.
Also egal was da raus kommt, ich bin dagegen. Und vor allem völlig dagegen wenn es mal wieder an meinen Geldbeutel geht.
The Greek Parliament has agreed and will get another few billions.
Has this changed the fundamental problem? Well let us assume the Greeks really will be able to sell of a few „assets“. How often are you able to do that? Exactly one time.
Now if still the income is not sufficient without this sellings, what will happen then? Now if the Greek have a deficit of more than 10 % in their budget and the selling just bring in this 10%, what
have they won then?
Next years they have the same amount of debt. They have not paid principal they just have used the money for the runnings costs. Well lthe stuff is sold and what now?
Let us assume they do nothing else to make the gap between expenses and income smaller. Then in fact they are worse of next year. They have lost „assets“ which potentially can be profitable. But this „profits“ are „gone“.
No it’s playing on time. One hopes that in year or so everything will be better. But how will that be done. How many new production lines can one open in a year. And what should they produce? They have not find a way of producing enough for the last 10 years but next year everything will be „solved“?
What you see is what happens if government takes it all. Too many bureaucrats to less productive workers. The result is obvious and still do they start changing that? Well it seems unemployment is on the raise. And now guess what government can not extend the expenditures and if you’d produce in Greece and Greece may default. What will happen to your products. Assume they will get buyed mostly in Greek and the people are unemployed and government also can not afford anything. What are your chances then?
Now without a really reduction of the debt and without budget surplus they have no chance. As I wrote just the payments last year and this year are probably twice as much as every Greek earns a year. So the debt will probably raise up to 180 – 220 % of the GDP and Greek is not known of being a big exporting country. Indeed they earn their money more or less with tourism….
Here are the economic figures of Greek according to http://www.querschuesse.de/griechenlands-industrieproduktion-im-marz-2011-mit-8-zum-vorjahr/ the production has gone down around 8% !!!
the output is down to a level from 15 or so years ago !! the producing part on the BIP in Greece is as low as 9,17%, the overall BIP is something around 320 billions, 10 % of it are 32 billions. Their debt is somewhere in the 400 billion region. Just with 5% interest they would have to pay 20 billions on interest. Fact is the interest they have to offer on the markets are somewhere above 20 % !!!
The import/export budget is 4/2. That means the Greek have to import much more than they could produce. I have not found any figures about the capital in/outflows. But I bet those Greek having something have brought their money abroad. And so tell me whose going to invest then?
Nun das griechische Parlament hat abgestimmt und so werden wohl wieder ein paar Milliarden flüssig gemacht. Ich gehe jede Wette ein: „Es werden nicht die letzten Milliarden“ sein. Wenn der ESM Wahrheit wird dann gibt es für die Bürokraten kein Halten mehr. Außer die Pleite fast aller Europastaaten.
Und immer noch dürfte fesstehen Griechenland hat kein Liquditätsproblem sondern ein Schuldenproblem. Selbst wenn durch Verkäufe Geld in die Kassen kommen sollten, ist das immer nur einmal möglich. Man kann eben etwas nicht mehrfach verkaufen. Was wenn dann die Ausgaben nicht den Einnahmen angepasst werden. Was bleibt dann?
Ich bin überzeugt weitere Milliarden Schulden brauchen die Griechen sicherlich nicht…
Oh well now we have another potential defrauder and definitive a centralist at the top if the IMF. Now I bet Greece will get some more money, even if
the IMF has guide lines which would forbid that.
Now we have new centralists and monetary policy believers in the ECB and the IMF. That’s so sorry fucking bad, that I could just cry
So we’ll see new establishemnts of lendors of las resort, stuffed with tons of „new debt“. No state has some money left to pay for it without new credits. So the money avalanche will get bigger and bigger.
I just kindly remind you of: http://mises.org/Community/blogs/fdominicus/archive/2011/02/03/my-predictions.aspx
Zu den ach so tollen Griechenlandanleihen: http://blog.jan-filter.de/2011/06/25/kauft-den-ramsch-doch-selber/
Dazu dieses Blog: http://fdominicus.blogspot.com/2009/10/done-i-sold-last-asset-from-country.html
Das ist auch schon wieder fast 2 Jahre her. Es bleibt dabei, kaufen Sie keine Anleihen irgendeines Staates. Sie haben es im Geldbeutel. Jeder gegebene Kredit für einen Staat ist ein Kredit mehr für die Totengräber der Freiheit. Für die nur gilt. Der Staat ist gut, der Mensch schlecht….
in the EU and USA it’s the ever expanding raise in laws against freedom and limiting liability.
As you can read also here:
http://mises.org/Community/blogs/tokyotom/default.aspx
But know there is a new negative record in the making of the ESM (European Stability Mechanism) . Unfortunatly despite search for an english version I just found an inofficial German translation.
In short: A new agency, with immunity of all in the governments boards without any democratic legitimation. As soon as I find the english version of it I’ll post it here.
For year now the establishement tries to save themselves while taking every tax paying cititzen as hostage.
I started my other blog some 3 or so years ago and added the Mises Blog last year. I just cite myself from my outer Mises Blog
http://fdominicus.blogspot.com/2008/09/its-not-plan-at-all.html
or a bit earlier:
http://fdominicus.blogspot.com/2008/09/capitalism.html
I may bore you to death with it, but I think it still is needed that there always was and is another way. If you just have but one plan you have at least two choices. Follow the plan or DO NOTHING.
If you are at the edge of a cliff and see the other side you can try to make one extra step. Or you can just stay, and think.
After a while of thinking you may see that it would be a bad idea to make the step and drop a few hundred meters. You won’t get on the other side while falling to death. So than you think a little longer and you could think of another way of getting to the other side. And you may start looking for bridge or the like. If you find one other „solution“ you probably find some other solutions.
Now let’s come back to the state of affairs. If the politicians had stopped three years ago and thought. They might have realized the debt are too high and it won’t help to pile them up even higher. This never has happens with the majoritiy of hte politicians and so they became deledefs. Now everything else is a follow-up to this. And still the economic reality (the abyss) is real. I don’t know of the Deledefs have make the next stupid step. But even if, men will survive. Especially those having lived within their bounds.
You still may declare yourself independent of the stupidness of the deledefs….
For us all the declaration of independence would be sound money, while breaking the money monopoly of any government. Sound money means if you have money you still will be able to exchange that against goods you need. Unsound money may just be stuff to play with for children. So help to fight the central banks and fiat-money, and let’s the deledefs do the last stupid step alone…
Es gibt in Deutschland eine Partei die mit F anfäng und mit P aufhört. Nach neueseten Erkenntnissen steht eine Umbenennung kurz bevor. Um der Wichtigkeit diese Projekts Schlagkraft zu geben wird diese Partei in (F)ast (D)rei (P)rozent umbenannt.
Neueste Projekte dieser Partei: Einer nicht näher zu benennenden Person wurde der Doktortitel aberkannt macht aber nichts dafür wird man in der Politik: in die Forschungskommission aufgenommen.
Ein andere Politiker der mit Ch anfängt und Bürokraten nach Griechenland schicken wollte um dort aufzuräumen hat dieses Aufräumen offenbar bei sich selber nicht nötig. Der Betrüger ist nicht schuld.
Wir glauben diese „Personen“ arbeiten speziell am U3 Projekt mit, dafür besten dank für den Fisch.
Zwei Themen heute auf der freien Welt: http://www.freiewelt.net/nachricht-7505/eu-will-vorratsdatenspeicherung-erzwingen.html
Erst mal alle Verdächtigen.
damit wohl das hier Ohne Legitimation
durchgeht. Auch wenn es unzulässig ist diese beiden Sachen zu verbinden. Nur es zeigt die Richtung der Normale EU Bürger ist grundsätzlich mal verdächtig und das passt den Delebets in den Kram. Denn dann können Sie Ihre schmutzigen Geschäfte als „alternativlos“ durchpauken.
Geschickter waren weder de Nazis noch die Sozialisten. Nun werden die „Demokraten“ die Totengräber der Staaten.
Es geht weiter, es ist sicherlich unklar was für den Atomausstieg beachtet werden muß. Es sieht so aus als ob ein „unwesentlicher“ Bestandteil davon womöglich die Verletzung der Eigentumsrechte sind. Arrogant wie Politiker nun mal sind wird das einfach als „Quatsch“ vom Tisch gefegt (was ja fast schon normal ist) richtig übel wird es erst wenn ein Bundesumweltminister die Firmen „warnt“ vor Gericht zu gehen.
Mir wäre nicht bekannt, dass die Jurisdiktion der Exekutive untergeordnet wäre und soweit mir bekannt gilt immer noch Gewaltenteilung. Allein dafür verdiente Röttgen den Rauswurf und/oder ein massives Gerichtsurteil gegen den Staat.
Gut das Röttgen nicht zu entscheiden hat, was er als Klage akzeptiert. Und wieder einmal scheren sich die Politiker keinen Deut um Recht und Gesetz. Auch ein Röttgen steht nicht über dem Grundgesetz, das sollte dieser „Umweltheld“ nicht vergessen.
English banks reduce their exposer to EU risks:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8584442/UK-banks-abandon-eurozone-over-Greek-default-fears.html
1:100 that Merkel and Sarkozy will name them speculates. Or traitors or such
Greeks history is near record breaking for defaulting. Just read „This time is different“ and you’ll see I’m taking this out of the blue.
Much more interesting is that defaulting seems to correlate very nicely with corruption. For this beeing able to read German check:
http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/wirtschaft/bwl4/interessantes/Korruption_Artikel.pdf
Togehter with this time is different you’ll see the probabiltiy of Greek defaulting is very high and because of the sell of of bonds one can see, all but the deledefs think a default is inevitable.
Der Wahnsinn hat Methode, und wenn wir uns nicht wehren, werden wir uns womöglich bald wundern wie man in Deutschland schon wieder in einer Diktatur landen konnte….
There are at least two of them here in Euro land. Named Merkel and Sarkozy
Why do I write that? Well they want to keep Greece floating with anohter staging 120 billion bill fo all the europeans. Well they did not tell us they will give this money out at once, but in the end
we’ll have given the Greek something around 200 – 400 billions.
That you got an idea on how much that really is. There are roughly 500 millions living in Europe. (According to Wikipedia) so now let’c caluclate with 300 billions new debt
we have 300 000 000 000 / 500 000 000 = 600 €/each. So for a family of four nearly 2500 €. This money will have to be „spend“ in roughly 3 years. So this makes every year for 800 extra payments for paying principal (you know the
other EU countries simply do not have any reserves they just can „pay“ this help with another round of debts)
Now how many Greeks are there? 10.688.058 according to: http://www.geographixx.de/einwohner/infos.asp?land=Griechenland
Now three hundred billions of debt are per inhabitant: 300000000000/10500000 = 28571 €.
Surely more than what each inhabitant earns a year.
Everyone but the deledefs can see that this is not bearable. And so things will come as they have to Greece will default. No surprise at all but for the deledefs. And
two of the most stupid are deciding that sinking that much money will „help“. This is so ridicoulous stupid that it’s beyond any understanding.
There’s a saying in Germany „Gut Ding will Weile haben“ it seems the english counterpart is „haste makes waste“
At least a few probably have risen their head to see the light. They now tell us: „There’s no Euro crisis“ (which is true because) „we have a debt crisis“ which surely is true. Just leave aside the fact that
our money in the end is debt. So all our money is part of a really debt problem. Money should not be debt but value is the way to go in the shortest possible run. But indeed the Euro is not responsible for
careleless debt piling. Nobody in Greece was forced to accept debts and more debt and even more debts.
So let’s see debt not as the „money debt“ but the debt of bonds etc. The bankrupt of Greece would not make the Euro suddenly worthless. Just the debt of the bonds would be „gone“ (well more or less) So quite a few billions of debt would „vanish“. (Agreed they do not vanish into nothing, but Greece would see the result. If it ever will come back for asking fresh money in form of new bonds. People would surely require a premium. Despite anything this would be a good thing. If you know you have to bear quite a lot of intereste you’ll be cautious to improve your ranking and you will not pile up debts that fast. Unfortunatly this is not a „never ending story“, but that’s another „party“.
Now to see this debt problem and not make it worth with even more debt would be prudent policy. But as we now prudent and policy do not have anything in common but the first letter. Now with the inprudent policy of giving away 110 billion !! a year ago. The imprudence has make it a lot worth. Instead of let’s say 600 billions debts Greece now has 700 billions debt. And guess what it does not have lighten their burden in fact the landing will get harder. And do not add another unwise step the politicians should face it with a straight face. Greece is bankrupt now let’s see that we get over it without civil war. The way always is the same. The debitiors must bear the bill. If some of them will broke over it, then we must let them go also. I guess this later implications is what the deledefs fear more than anything else. So they probably will not „face“ it but prolongate the suffering….